Really ? are you serious about this Ken ? take a look at the books follow the references there, you don't need me or anyone else to provide you what is already available. Your picking a pointless argument pretending to be all scientific about it, really ? 

If you had one ounce the humility that many of the people involved in these researches had you'd at least study openly what they've provided, before asking for counter evidence. Have you studied the actual suplied evendence ? do you know what counter evidence your even asking for ?

Unless you actually answer my ? in the replies above, read or watch the available information you just wasting your's, mine and everyones time, just study the information I've shared and find counter arguments if you care to disprove something or have points to make.

I repeat... 

Lets have a talk about it more, if your still interested, when you've at least had chance to follow up the links, references, books, videos I mentioned. If they still interest you or anyone else ? I have nothing to proove, or to say which isn't said and stated clearly by more clever and respected people than me and after all the proof is in the pudding, which I and many people are already greatfull to around the world. And I'm sure you know the origins of pudding has nothing to do with what we have come to think it means.